stay on it, does -- do we talk about how much do we talk about benghazi, how much do we talk about israel. you know, that's what's hard about a press conference. you get your say at the start but the reporters ask their questions and you never know where the story goes from there. >> john harris, you've been in that room also as a former white house correspondent and the president is going to be going into this meeting with the business leaders asking for their advice, their terms of reference, how much to give on taxes and which are the most important from their perspective and potentially a little advice as well on what kind of leader they would like to see at the treasury. >> there's no question about it and i think that is the big issue, the fiscal cliff and all the choices that president obama has to make. the different positions he's going to be striking publicly, to set himself up well for private negotiations. clearly the petraeus story is the most sensational news of the day. i think that is the most significant. if i can make two points for the historically minded people on this